
Chip Pate is a history buff on a collision course with the near future. A marketing specialist in Pittsboro, in his spare time Pate serves as public information officer for the North Carolina Division of the Sons of Confederate Veterans, the pre-eminent Confederate history group. He runs the Web site of his Siler City-based SCV camp, edits newsletters and historical journals, and writes columns. He helps restore rebel grave sites and fields questions from the media about Civil War heritage. Along the way, he says heโs spent upward of $15,000 of his own money promoting this regionโs Confederate legacy.
But a few weeks ago, Pate removed his framed SCV certificate from the wall, and now heโs considering taking the commemorative license plate, which bears the Confederate stars and bars, off his car. Soon, he says, he may have to quit the organization altogether.
โThis is a mess,โ Pate says. โI realize I may not be a member of the SCV anymore, and thatโs sad.โ He is one among several prominent Confederate enthusiasts in this state who fear that the heritage organization they have proudly served is about to shame itself by endorsing modern-day hatred.
The former Confederate officer who founded the SCV charged it with waging โthe defense of the Confederate soldierโs good name.โ Just what that means is still open to debate. The 31,000-member organization is best known for staging historical re-enactments of key campaigns between the Blue and the Gray. But suddenly, this isnโt about playing soldier anymore.
The SCV has long been criticized by outsiders for harboring racist sympathizers, but lately, the fiercest conflicts have occurred within the group. Sectarian politics that hinge on questions of heritage and hate threaten to tear the 105-year-old institution apart.
Two Tar Heels are in the trenches, vying for the commandership of the Army of North Virginia, the largest of the SCVโs three national groupings. In one corner is candidate Kirk Lyons, a Black Mountain-based lawyer who has made his name as the defender of the radical, and frequently racist, right. In the other is Charles Hawks of Raleigh, a retired tax administrator and present commander of the SCVโs North Carolina Division. Hawks says heโd rather stay out of the spotlight, but that he wants to save the group from a public-relations debacle.
This isnโt exactly Antietam or Gettysburg, but the next tide-turning battle for the Confederacy will occur in Memphis, when the SCVโs national elections are held at the Peabody Hotel in early August.
For an organization supposedly stuck in the past, this election will chart the future. And each candidate is arguing, to the great-great-grandsons of rebel soldiers who will cast the votes in Memphis, that the organization will suffer defections if their opponent wins.
To hear the candidates tell it, this is a horse race, pure and simple, between two different breeds of latter-day Confederates.
Lyons wants the SCV to adopt a combative approach, using lawsuits and lobbying to promote Confederate issues, and sweep aside what he says is an old guard of SCV officials who are too timid because of their fear of being branded racist.
โI think this is the last gasp of the โletโs get alongโ crowd in the SCV,โ says Lyons, who emphatically denies heโs a bigot.
Hawks, for his part, says that this may be the SCVโs last, best chance to show its disapproval of racism in the ranks. So far, he has refrained from calling Lyons a hate-monger, but he will say this: โIf you are found in a cave with bin Laden, you are assumed to be a follower of bin Laden. If we elect Lyons, then obviously we approve of his agenda, and his agenda is obviously racial.โ
A scrappy and boisterous debater, Lyons seems to relish the opportunity to put his past on trial. โThis will give the electorate the clearest possible choice for their commander,โ he says. โThey can say exactly where they want this organization to go. It could not be clearer.โ
โI would agree 100 percent with that,โ Hawks says. โThatโs probably the only thing I would agree with him on.โ A reserved and reluctant campaigner, Hawks says that he wouldnโt have joined the race at all, except that he felt Lyons must be stopped.
In his Black Mountain office, located in a nondescript apartment in this historically liberal town, Lyons is surrounded by militaria. Along with neatly stacked legal documents, piles of mass mailings, several desktop computers and hundreds of military history books, Lyons keeps piles of antique weapons and a closet full of historic war garb.
Lyons, 45, is an avid โre-enactor,โ which is to say that he has spent many a day and night playing the part of long-dead soldiers from the Revolutionary War and Civil War. โThis weekend, Iโm supposed to be going to Trenton to stop Mr. Washington from crossing the Delaware,โ he says, โbut unfortunately, because of illness in the family and financial realities I think Iโm probably going to be in the office.โ
With five kids to raise and a busy law firm to run, Lyonsโ re-enactor days may be dwindling. But he still prides himself on the authenticity of his outfits, which heโs been hand-sewing since he was a teenager.
Lyons shows off his wardrobe, pointing out the authentic buttons, quilted linings, interior pockets and hand-stitched buttonholes. When possible, he uses original period fabrics, like the 130-year-old silver embroidery he picked up at a shop in Manhattan. โIโve got sources literally all over the world for the wool, silk, and linen you need to make this type of clothing,โ he says. โYou know, if itโs not made with the right materials, itโs just not going to look right.
โThis is what I collect,โ he says. โAll of these trunks are full. I have womenโs clothes as well.
โIf we were doing this interview in 1850, this is probably what I would wear,โ he says. โIt has a silk brocade vest, and then a black, broad-clothed frock coat. This is what Jefferson Davis would have worn in his office.โ
Now that Lyons has launched a bid to wear the commanderโs uniform in the Army of Northern Virginia, itโs the details of his career, not his garment-making credentials, that are making news. If thereโs a pro-Confederacy activist whoโs become accustomed to bad press, itโs Kirk Lyons. For the last 15 years, heโs been described in print as a white supremacist, an anti-government zealot, a leading extremist and everything in between.
โIโll be the first to admit it, Iโm a right-wing name dropper,โ Lyons says. โI have known all of them, talked to all of them, have probably given advice to all of them. That doesnโt make me one of them, save for the fact that I believe they have the same rights under the Bill of Rights and Constitution that everyone has.โ
His connections to the radical right are well-documented, and could be summed up in many ways, but his critics usually start with The Wedding.
In September 1990, Lyons was married in a ceremony that suggested his love life had come into alignment with his professional one. The bride: Brenna Tate, daughter of Charles Tate, a leader of Aryan Nations, white power group. The setting: the Christian Identity church on the Aryan Nations compound in Hayden Lake, Idaho. It was a double ceremony: Another daughter of Tateโs, Laura Beth, married Neill Payne, Lyonsโ close associate. (Another of Charles Tateโs children, David, was then and is now serving a life sentence for murdering a Missouri state trooper while he was a member of The Order, a right-wing terrorist group.) Aryan Nations founder Richard Butler officiated, and to top it all off, Lyonsโ best man was Louis Beam, former Grand Dragon of the Texas Ku Klux Klan.
Friends like these have made Lyons some enemies. One of them is Monroe Gilmore, who directs Western North Carolina Citizens for an End to Institutional Bigotry, a watchdog group based in Asheville. Gilmore and Lyons have fought a long-running war of words over whether Lyonsโ racist contacts implicate him.
โHe says this is just guilt by association,โ Gilmore says. โBut itโs association after association after association. And when you add to it his activities and what he has said, thereโs no question why he is named one of the leaders of todayโs white supremacy movement.โ
Lyons dismisses criticism of his family ties, calling it โa gutter tacticโ that โhits below the belt.โ โI married the moonshinerโs daughter,โ he says. โItโs the same type of thing. Are we going to attack my wife for the alleged sins of her family?โ
Whether or not his reputation gets snarled in the roots of his family tree, Lyonsโ work as an attorney and activist may trip up his run for the commandership, at least among moderates in the SCV. Since the late 1980s, when he earned a law degree from the University of Houston, heโs been on the front lines of various cultural and legal battles that were watersheds for the ultra-right.
Operating from Texas, he represented such defendants as Klan leader Beam, who, with Lyons help, was acquitted of federal sedition charges. (It was shortly thereafter, Lyons says, when he lectured on the case at an Aryan Nations conference and fell in love with Brenna Tate.) Other clients and advisees included members of violent right-wing groups like Posse Comitatus, the White Patriot Party and White Aryan Resistance.
Still, Lyons maintains that heโs neither a racist, supremacist nor separatist. โIโm a Christian, un-reconstructed Southerner from Texas,โ he says. โThatโs all Iโve ever claimed to be.โ
โI do not regret any of the clients I have represented,โ Lyons says, because โthey were all on trial because of what they believed.โ Still, he is aware that โfrom a PR angle, a lot of my associations as an attorney obviously are not going to get me into Whoโs Who.โ
Lyons grounds his defense in religion. โI have never cared what non-Christians think about me,โ he says. โI am concerned when Christians take opinions from non-Christians to evaluate me and my work. Iโm upset when people go to these so-called watchdog groups and take what they say as holy writ about me.โ
But Lyons has provided the watchdogs with plenty of fodder for their Web sites and newsletters. Shortly after his 1992 move to Black Mountain, he founded the CAUSE Foundation, โa clearinghouse for civil rights concerns for European derived people.โ The acronym stood for Canada/Australia/United States/South Africa/Europe.
Heโs been a lightning rod for criticism ever since. In April 1993, he participated in a protest at the opening of the Holocaust Museum in Washington, D.C. The same year, a German rightist magazine published a lengthy interview with Lyons, who made waves with his comments about the KKK: โI have great respect for the Klan historically but, sadly, the Klan today is ineffective and sometimes even destructive. โฆ It would be good if the Klan followed the advice of former Klansman Robert Miles: โBecome invisible. Hang the robes and hoods in the cupboard and become an underground organization.โ That would make the Klan stronger than ever before.โ
Lyons says his critics are considering the quote out of its context. โIt was very practical advice, but the advice was geared strictly towards making sure that Germans donโt join the Klan. Now if you go to Germany today, you will not find the Klan. You can thank me for that.โ
Then there were his 1992 comments at a meeting of German nationalists, which were broadcast by Spiegel TV. Lyons, speaking in German, opened his remarks by saying he was โhonored to be in the country that has produced the worldโs most famous composers, artists and architects as well as the greatest fรผhrer of the 20th century.โ
Again, Lyons says, consider the context before passing judgment. And read his words very carefully. โIt was a free speech test,โ he says. โI knew about their anti-free speech laws, and so a German attorney and I sat down and we crafted my speech to push the envelope.โ
Besides, he says, he didnโt name the leader he was praising, and the word Hitler did not pass his lips. Since the title โfรผhrerโ translates to โpolitical leader,โ he says, โI could just as easily have been referring to Helmut Kohl.โ
While Lyons became a popular figure among German rightists, heโs done most of his work on the home front. In 1996, he launched his current vehicle for litigation: the Southern Legal Resource Center (SLRC). The chief aim of the center, he says, is to โstop the ethnic cleansing of Dixie,โ largely by filing suit against schools, companies and other institutions that bar the display of the Confederate flag. Lyons is chief trial counsel. His brother-in-law, Neill Payne, is executive director.
The SLRC has filed about 10 cases in federal courts, Lyons says, and is researching and filing claims in roughly 70 other cases. The firmโs victories are few. The most significant recent success came in the ongoing โHank Williams concert T-shirt case.โ Lyons filed a federal lawsuit for two high-school students who were suspended for wearing the shirts, which bore Confederate flags. Last March, a three-judge panel in Ohio ruled that the T-shirts constituted โspeechโ and that the case would go to trial.
Another important continuing case, Lyons says, is his effort to force Texas to return Confederate memorial plaques to the walls of the state capitol buildingโplaques that then-governor George W. Bush ordered taken down.
โWe are promoters of a Southern civil rights movement, and itโs going to, over the next few years, revolutionize politics and the dispensation of justice in the South,โ Lyons says. โAnd of course itโs going to have spillover into all of the heritage organizations.โ
Lyons is part of a โreform factionโ within the SCV that backs his mission, he says. โWe are not some minority anomaly. The reform faction has been moving to essentially managerial control of the organization for several years now.โ And indeed, in the last elections, in August 2000, the Army of Northern Virginia elected Lyons an โexecutive councilman,โ so heโs already got a vote, and a foothold, on the SCV national board.
Many of the donations that keep his legal center operating come from SCV members, Lyons says. โOur opponents demonize the SLRC for one reason,โ he wrote in a recent fundraising letter that went out to thousands of SCV members. โWe are the most effective and hard-hitting fighters on the Southern Heritage front.โ
Given his controversial history, Lyons is the media draw, but his opponent, Charles Hawks, enjoys his own prominence as the commander of the N.C. Division of the SCV. Heโs also been an active defender of the Confederacy, but his approach differs markedly from that of Lyons.
If Lyons is a firebrand, Hawks is a slowly smoking ember. He answers questions about the election in clipped, carefully chosen phrases, and often defers to his spokesman, Chip Pate, for direct comment on the hot-button issues in the campaign.
Hawks, 59, keeps both the United States flag and the Confederate battle flag pinned to his blazer lapel, and his blood-red necktie is crossed with stars and bars. But thatโs about as far as he takes it, cosmetically speaking; though Hawks says he appreciates the work of the re-enactors, thatโs not his passion.
The SCVโs work, Hawks says, is mostly a matter of quiet and determined memorial projects. โThis is what weโre doing to honor our veterans, getting their stories out,โ he says. When critics question whether heโs manned the barricades enough for the Confederate cause, he ticks off a list of his historical efforts.
Hawks is proud of the N.C. Divisionโs role in arranging the rededication of the Confederate Memorial Forestโ125,000 acres of spruce pines in western North Carolina that were preserved with funds from the United Daughters of the Confederacy. For decades, the forest has had no sign. Now, thanks to the SCV, it does.
And under Hawksโ leadership, the division has waged a successful legal challenge to secure the SCVโs right to have commemorative license plates, and conducted a vigorous outreach campaign to explain the objectives of the group.
Come May, when Hawksโ state division term expires, he had planned to retire from SCV leadership. Lyonsโ announcement last fall that he would run for the commanderโs post in the Army of Northern Virginia changed that. Hawks says he went to other division officers and entreated them to mount a challenge. โNobody else would do it, so itโs up to me,โ he says.
โJust as Kirk is judged for the company he keeps, so will the SCV be judged by the men we elect,โ Hawks says. โWhen this becomes the face of the organization, then weโre all branded as racists.โ
For years, the SCV has gone to some pains to separate itself from associations with racist causes. In 1989, for example, the national convention passed a resolution denouncing hate groups that fly the rebel flag. Still, no matter who is flying it, that flag remains an offensive symbol to many. And thatโs all the more reason, Hawks and his supporters say, to choose leaders untainted by charges of bigotry.
โThis is a critical time for the SCV,โ Hawks wrote in a Nov. 15 letter announcing his candidacy. โOur cause and our colors are being attacked on numerous fronts, and often being raised on high by organizations whose objectives are not to honor the sacred memories and sacrifice of our ancestors, but rather to sow seeds of prejudice and divisiveness.โ He warned that Lyonsโ โalleged ties, whether real or perceived, to certain infamous organizations could be devastating to the SCV.โ
Lewis Lawrence, a farmer in Sanford who serves as heritage officer for the N.C. Division, says that a Lyons victory would nullify years of SCV outreach efforts. โWeโre always talking about wanting to be accepted as a mainstream civic organization, and then we have someone like this running,โ he says. โAs long as Iโve been in the SCV, weโve always stood against white supremacy and the Klan and things like that, and Lyonsโ path would appear to be the exact opposite.โ
A fog of racial contradictions surrounds a recent scene at a Chinese lunch buffet in Black Mountain, two days after Christmas. At first, it seems a most unlikely gathering.
On one side of the table are Kirk Lyons and Neill Payne, alleged white supremacists. On the other sits H.K. Edgerton, a black civil-rights activist clad in Confederate gray.
In the 1990s, Edgerton served as president of the Asheville chapter of the NAACP. Then he started dressing in Confederate battle garb and toting the rebel flag and a โHeritage, Not Hateโ sign. Today he is chairman of the board at Lyonsโ legal center, and may be Lyonsโ biggest fan. The pair line up at the buffet before returning to their table.
These men donโt just eat together, they fight together. The SCV camp run by Lyons and Payne has appointed Edgerton an honorary member, even though he has not identified an ancestor who fought with the Confederacy. The trio were introduced in 1997 by civic officials who hoped they could broker some peace during an upcoming KKK march in Asheville, which authorities feared might turn violent. At the time, Edgerton was president of the Asheville NAACP.
Between mouthfuls of egg rolls and fried rice, they recount their fateful meeting, which took place in a pub. โWe hit it off with him immediately,โ Lyons says. โItโs like weโd met a long-lost friend.โ
โFor me, it felt like being at a peace conference, because out of all this terror and evilness, I had met two men who had finally showed me a little light,โ Edgerton says.
The happy-hour crowd flowed in, Lyons says, and โwe sat and talked, gosh, for hours, while everybody in Asheville walked around us.โ It was about then that someone snapped the notorious โnapkin photo.โ
โWe started joking about the NAACP being โthe Klan with a tan,’โ Payne says. โAnd we said, โWell, H.K., weโll just join your Klan.’โ
Strange high jinks ensued. โWe put our โhoodsโ onโthe dinner napkins,โ Lyons remembers. The three men hoisted the napkins to their foreheads and posed for a photo. When the photo ran on the front page of the Asheville Citizen-Times, it made for surreal Southern slapstick, either hilarious or revolting, depending on your perspective. The state NAACP responded negatively, and in January 1999, Edgerton was ousted in a reorganization of his chapter.
Edgerton says heโs happier with his new crew. โI wish to God, if I could have a wish, that I could meet at least 10 more โwhite separatistsโ like Kirk D. Lyons and Dr. Neill Payne,โ he says.
โAll my life, I have been taught to hate white folks in the Southland of America. And all this lying has been done to black folks about that flag and about the Southern Christian white folksโmy problems have never been with the Christian white folks in the South.โ
Edgertonโs problems, he says, are with the Yankees, who he blames for bringing misery to blacks in the South. โIt was our homeland, just like it was white folksโ. I certainly wouldnโt call Africa our homeland; they didnโt want us then and they donโt want us now.โ
โYou know, those Africans who climbed off those boats didnโt know anything about my lord and master Jesus Christ,โ he adds. โIt was on these Southern plantations where Sunday was the most integrated day of the week.โ
Edgerton says many Southern blacks made common cause with the Confederacy. โI wear this gray not just for myself and my family, I wear it for all the black folks,โ he says. โThose who remained loyal to the South, their voices were not heard, because of the propaganda machine. We earned a place of honor and dignity around here. As soldiers, and on those plantations we made all the implements of the war, and the foodstuffs. If it wasnโt for the black folks, I donโt believe those boys would have lasted days, much less for years.โ
Lyons backs him up: โBut for the slaves on the plantation remaining loyal and taking up the place where the white men left, the Confederacy would have ground to a halt in the first year of the war.โ
There has been much speculation about the nature of Lyonโs relationship with Edgerton. โKirk is using him to show heโs not a racist, but thatโs obviously not the situation,โ Hawks says. โHeโs just got him there to show as a prop.โ
But during their lengthy lunch conversation, Edgerton and Lyons seem to be authentic allies. They banter freely, and mimic and praise each other. There is much they agree on.
Both say they want the United States to crack down on immigration. And on the issue of interracial romantic relationships, their views mirror each other.
โMy brother is married to a Filipino woman, and Iโll be very honest, I did not approve of their marriage,โ Lyons says. โI am a traditional Southerner and all that implies. That doesnโt mean that I hate other races, but I did not approve of the marriage. He should have married a Southern girl.โ
A Southern woman of any lineage? โA white Southerner,โ he clarifies.
โMy brotherโs married to a Puerto Rican,โ Edgerton interjects, while Lyons and Payne listen from across the table. โI certainly did not subscribe to that. That really sent me through three or four loops.โ
โSome folks have a problem, they say, Kirk D. Lyons wants to have his children have white babies,โ adds Edgerton. โWell, whatโs wrong with a man wanting his grandchildren to look like him? Iโd certainly like to have some that look like me. I canโt have Dr. Payneโs son come and have sex with my daughter; I donโt know what that might look like.โ
โWell if you really believe black is beautiful, the only way youโre going to perpetuate that is by having black children,โ Payne comments.
After the laughter dies down, Edgerton continues. โDoes that make me prejudiced or a racist? The thing about race-mixing is: I donโt know what God had in mind when he made black folks and he made white folks, but he must have known something. I think some better things could come out of it if black folks stayed with black folks and white folks stayed with white folks. Thereโd be a lot less problems around here. At least the lily field would stay a lily field.โ
Lyonsโ alliance with a black Confederate re-enactor makes for an interesting sideshow, but it has in no way tempered the rancor in SCV debates about the controversial lawyer.
This is an uncivil war, as the campaign has lost all semblance of civility. The epithets are flying like musket rounds. The Lyons contingent calls the other side โgranniesโ and โbedwetters.โ The Hawks camp fires back with โbigotsโ and โsheetheads.โ
The two combatants are gearing up with the same weapon, the one that seems to matter most: history. There is nothing more sacrosanct to the SCV members on both sides of this campaign.
โMost of the people coming into the SCV in the last 10 years have done so because they want to fight for Confederate heritage, they want to fight for the flag,โ Lyons argues. But thousands have left the organization, he says, โbecause the SCV was not the heritage fighter it ought to be,โ and heโs out to change that by mounting a strident defense of the symbols of the Confederacy.
Protecting the past requires fighting hard in the present, Lyons says. โThe principles that underlie the organization we need to keep, but we need to organize everything else so that we can fight a modern political war,โ he says. He wants to empower the SCV, but not at the expense of being politically correct.
โPeople are always going to call names at someone whoโs effective,โ Lyons says. โThat just means that our opponents are afraid of us. They fear us, and thatโs a good thing. And thatโs what Charles canโt understand: that our opponents are never going to love us, and that this is a fight to the finish.โ
Hawks, for his part, has been studying up on Lyonsโ personal history, and he will be sharing it with SCV members at upcoming candidate forums. โThe salvation of the organization is that theyโre going to learn about his background,โ Hawks says. โI think heโs going to be surprised to find out how many people, once they know about him, are not going to support him.โ
Still, Lyons has some prominent supporters who are familiar with his record. Both the current national SCV commander and the present commander of the Army of Northern Virginia, among other senior officials, are backing Lyons. โThereโs a vocal minority that will support Charles,โ he says. โBut I am not worried about this election. Iโm not a betting man, but Iโd be happy to bet you $100 that Iโll be the next ANV commander.โ
Several state SCV leaders say they have a contingency plan for what to do should Lyons win: They will leave the organization and continue their Confederate history work under a different name.
Gilbert Jones of Greensboro, commander of the state SCVโs Northern Piedmont Brigade, is among those who would be inclined to quit. โIf we elect Kirk, we are trading in our honor. It would be a sign that the inmates are in control of the asylum, and I couldnโt stay.โ
Pate says the race is forcing hard choices for SCV members. โThereโs always the question, do you stay in a racist organization, and fight against that? My answer is this: I will stay and fight, but only until the racist character [of the organization] is known to me. Then Iโm out. This election is a big flashlight that will show whether the SCV is a racist organization or not.โ 


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