What was your experience being queer and religious?
Especially as an adolescent, I was not religious. I didnโt feel like there was a space for me: I was very gay, very transgender, and I felt like I didnโt belong in religious spaces. Iโd internalized the idea of, โGod made Man and Woman, and you canโt be transgender because itโs in defiance of God.โ I interpreted that as โWell, I guess there is no God because here I am.โ I exist. My experience is real. My pain is real. But I also always believed in something a little more spiritual than just the mundane world we live in. I like to believe that there is a spirituality in all things and plants and animals and our connections to each other. So religion has interested me, but when I was an angry 14-year-old, I cast it aside and said, โIโm an atheist.โ
How did you first find the Religious Society of Friends, or Quakers?
During quarantine, I had time to sit in my room and think. I spent part of that time in religious introspection. I researched Quakers and I thought they were cool because I donโt like rules and Quakerism doesnโt have a lot of rulesโthereโs no correct way to be Quaker. At the Quaker meeting I attend, there are people who are firm believers in Jesus Christ, and there are also people who are like, โYeah, Iโm Buddhist or Iโm Agnostic, or I donโt really know what I believe, but I like the people and the community here.โ Community is a huge part of why people are drawn to religion. Thatโs why I joined the QuakersโI was alone and scared and I needed a group of people that I could come home to.
How has the group shaped your identity and understanding of religion?
I havenโt been involved super long. I joined the Quakers in October, and in Quakers, thereโs an official process of becoming a Friend. I havenโt gone through that processโIโm currently an attender โbut Iโm putting a lot of serious thought into converting. I leave feeling better, and itโs something I want to have in my life for a while.
Itโs definitely changed my perspective on religion and that I actually can be religious. Iโm in the process of rediscovering my connection to spirituality; itโs fun seeing that and I feel like my connection to God is growing.
When did you come out as transgender?
I came out at 13 years old to my family and I started testosterone when I was 14. Iโve been extremely blessed in that I have a very accepting, supportive family. My parents are spiritual and theyโve always believed that God loves me just the way I am. Theyโve worked hard to make sure I have everything I need to be secure in my identity, making sure I had all my documents changed and that I got my hormone replacement therapy.
Because of my parents, Iโm secure in myself as a trans person. And itโs becoming a bigger part of my identity as kind of a spite against anti-trans legislation. A lot of the legislation is attacking gender-affirming care for youth, which is what saved my life. Thereโs a real chance that instead of being out here living my life, doing internships, meeting people, and doing normal teenage stuff that I could be six feet under the ground. There was a really dark time in my life and I couldnโt see a way forward. But I made my way forward, and I want every trans kid out there to be able to make it to a trans adult.
What would you tell other queer teens who are going through a similar struggle?
I would tell them, โFirst of all, you are not a mistake. You are loved and you have a place in your religious community.โ In the book Something That May Shock and Discredit You, thereโs a quote that I love: โGod blessed me by making me transsexual for the same reason God made wheat but not bread and fruit but not wine, so that humanity might share in the act of creation.โ Iโm not trans in spite of God, Iโm trans because I was wonderfully and beautifully made this way.
How did you feel about sharing your story?
Itโs fun and I like it. Iโve always tried to be an open book. People are more likely to understand and be compassionate towards trans people if theyโve had a conversation with one of us and understand weโre real people with feelings and passions and dreams, not just scary talking [points] on Fox News.
A lot of trans people arenโt comfortable with someone approaching them and going, โHey, have you had the surgery?โ But I let the cis people in my life know that they can come to me for those weird trans questions. Sometimes people just want to live their lives without being asked what their genitals look like, but Iโm happy to walk cis people through the process of hormones and name changes and what my genitals actually look like. Being published has been an extension of that and I hope someone out there can read it and learn that maybe there is a place for them in religious circles, or someone in a religious circle can understand that thereโs a place for people like us.
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