
Paula Poundstoneย
Friday, Oct. 26, 8 p.m., $33โ$48
Paula Poundstone is an author (The Totally Unscientific Study of the Search for Human Happiness), a podcaster (Nobody Listens to Paula Poundstone), an actor, and, most of all, a stand-up. Rather than parlaying live comedy into a movie career, Poundstone has honed her chops and personaโself-deprecation, belied by the high volume at which itโs broadcastโon stage for decades, making it her true medium. Still, many know her best from NPRโs radio news quiz, Wait Wait โฆ Donโt Tell Me!, where she has been a frequent MVP panelist for seventeen of the programโs twenty years.
Before she comes to Raleigh this week, Poundstone humored our Wait Wait fandom and disabused us of the notion that thereโs any such thing as unscripted conversation, in comedy or in life. And if youโre wondering: Yes, on the phone, she sounds just like she does on the radio, but with the occasional profanity and a cat yowling in the background.
INDY: What keeps Wait Wait fresh for you after all these years?
PAULA POUNDSTONE: By its very nature, itโs fresh. We know the questions will be about the weekโs news, and ostensibly one could prepare jokes, guessing what theyโre going to talk about, but Iโve never done that once. Really itโs just monkeys in a barrel.
I assumed it was a mix of scripted jokes and riffs on them.
No, not for the panelists. For Peter, who makes that look much easier than it is, yes. We are told the Bluff the Listener story the night before, and we write that. And the last joke, the prediction, where they say, โIf any of these things happen,โ weโre told a few minutes before we go out. The rest of it is conversation.
When Iโm on stage by myself, I do a lot of talking to the audienceโwhere are you from, what do you do for a living? Three-quarters of the time, somebody will say something, and I think of something funny. And a quarter of the time, someone will remind me of a piece of material Iโve had rattling around in my head. But thatโs just like every conversation youโve had in your life! Part of it is a frameworkโhi, how are you, fineโand itโs very well scripted. Part of it might be telling a story about your kid youโve already told to five different neighbors. This idea of having an unscripted conversation is really not all that mind-blowing. [Laughs]
It seems like a really fine art to balance the Bluff the Listener stories between funny and plausible. Sometimes someone will put in a joke thatโs so just-so, you know itโs fake.
Iโd rather be funny than anything else, but mine are never funny. I struggle with writing the Bluff story: one, itโs homework, and I balk at homework. Iโve written only a couple in my seventeen years where I felt like I nailed it, and the rest of the time Iโm just in there pitching. I donโt think anyoneโs ever chosen mine thinking it was the true one. I think, now and then, when they have no idea, theyโll pick mine as a mercy pick.
But I think youโre the funniest off the cuff, and surely that has to do with both being on the show and being a stand-up for so long.
Well, thank you. It is a muscle, and the show does a very smart thing thatโs rare in show business. The suits on any show cannot help themselves but tell the creators what to do. On Wait Wait โฆ Donโt Tell Me!, one of my cherished experiences was back when we were not yet in front of a live audience. We were in a recording studio somewhere, and somebody jumped on my headset, saying, โSay whatever you want, jump in anytime.โ Thatโs unheard of in this business. Obviously, thereโs some manners groundwork, but this idea that you bring on people you think are funny and allow them to be thatโit doesnโt seem like it should be earth-shattering, but itโs done very rarely.
Was there any guest that was particularly memorable for you?
Tom Hanks was a Not My Job guest one time, and we had belly-laughs with him, and then he came on as a host. He could do whatever he wants, I guess, but he wanted to! Before, I bumped into Mike Danforth in the hallway and went, โWhat was he like?โ Because theyโd been working on the script all week and had met him. Mike goes, โYou know what? Came in in the morning, got his coffee, sat down, and did the work.โ Oh god, I love that. I just could not get over that this was Woodyโone might also say Forrest Gumpโbut it was Woody across from me! It was all I could do not to throw myself on the floor like a Beatles fan and cry.
Do you have Carl Kasellโs voice on your home answering machine?
I do not have Carlโs voice on my answering machine! Carl didnโt have his voice on his answering machine. Until my answering machine brokeโand I did replace it, by the wayโI had the voice of my daughter when she was maybe four, and that was good enough for me. I must have won something to get that.
Thanks for humoring my Wait Wait fandom. You have a podcast, Nobody Listens to Paula Poundstone.
Itโs me and my buddy Adam Felber. Adam is one of the perks of doing Wait Wait โฆ Donโt Tell Me!. Heโs one of my favorite panelists to work with and became a good friend of our family. Iโd started working on a podcast for NPR called Live from the Poundstone Institute, and we worked together on that short-lived podcast. We liked working in that capacity so much, we decided to develop for ourselves another vehicle.
We tape in a gnarly North Hollywood neighborhood, not far from anyone who works on the showโexcept for me! I drive like an hour and a half. Basically, what we wanted was to have a little conveyer belt of topics to play with, so we call it a comedy advice podcast. How to move out of your parentsโ house; [how to] get an honest car mechanic, which, by the way, Iโve never done. [The format] is sort of like bread to butter for me. I donโt really like bread that much, but I love butter. Socially, it just looks better to have it on the bread. We go to this hole-in-the-wall studio; I make balloon animals, which is very rarely done on audio. Itโs one of the few things almost all human beings have in common right now: We breathe oxygen, we donโt eat our young, and we listen to podcasts.
To me, performing with a live audience is the absolute best, because itโs good for people to come out of their houses, itโs good for people to put down their flat screens and take things out of their ears, itโs good to sit around other people, and of course, itโs great for people to laugh. I consider myself a proud member of the endorphin production industry. If I could wiggle my nose like [in] Bewitched and be at the theater, it would be much easier than traveling the way I do, but itโs a small price to pay for such a glorious experience.
I canโt even wiggle my nose like that, much less make any magic happen.
Well, you could always use the Jeannie way, with the arms and the ponytail. Itโs funny that both of those shows were on around the same time, with these supernatural abilities to make things good. I feel bad for kids now. I love Pixar and Harry Potter, but even Harry Potter is very dystopian. I mean, Jesus, we had Hoganโs Heroes! We even made the Nazis entertaining. I donโt know why weโve decided to saddle our children with this idea that the worldโs not going to go on.
Itโs like that was some vestige of the America-wins-everything dream, but now the children donโt have jobs or believe in the future.
But on the other hand, the generation raised with the kind of TV I was raised with are the ones who created this world for the next generation. Maybe there was a downside to the happy entertainment.
Maybe they all just woke up rubbing their eyes one morning like, holy shit, we made a funny show about Nazis.
I canโt imagine how that was pitched. If you did it now, thereโs maybeโmaybeโenough of a distance. But pitching that show to network in the sixties?
Itโs like if you pitched a comedy about the Iraq War now.
Exactly! Wouldnโt that be fun? But at least they had managed to wrap up World War II.
Does one come to a Paula Poundstone show to laugh at the state of the world or to escape it?
A little bit of both. Itโs not all Trump all the time. My act is largely autobiographical. I started out talking about busing tables and taking public transportation in Boston. Whateverโs going on in my life gets folded in like dry ingredients to the eggs. And I watch the news a lot. So itโs like Iโm walking through the room with a cup thatโs really full, and until I spill some of that off, I canโt proceed. Politics [are] a big part of what I think about. I used to try to not mention that I was a Democrat, but at this point, it just comes out even if I donโt say it.
Reasonable people could once disagree, but nothingโs reasonable anymore, and those divisions canโt help but stand out.
I think part of it is just the stakes are so much higher. We have been told by a preponderance of scientists from around the world that if we donโt change what weโre doing by 2030, weโre toast. I donโt care if you wear a red tie every day, but my god, I do care about the policy stuff. I never liked Thanksgiving anyway, so I can understand why tensions run high.


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