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Do You Dream of Me Too?, the new album by Anne-Claire Cleaver, isnโ€™t about her. Itโ€™s not about you either, even when it uses the second person.

โ€œI think not being confessional is refreshing,โ€ the Durham musician said recently. โ€œMy first record was kind of confessional, but now I want something bigger, grander, where maybe Iโ€™m just a persona. So much of songwriting can be visual.โ€

In the home studio where she gives singing lessons, she ran her hand over the piano keyboard, where her vocal range spans six Eโ€™s. Atop the upright piano sat a votive candle, a box of tissues, two songwriting books, a Pride flag in a mug of pens, and a little bust of Beethoven.

Presiding over all is a mall portrait of her grandmother, costumed for a Hello, Dolly! production in eastern North Carolina. 

โ€œShe participated in the local theater her entire life,โ€ Cleaver said. โ€œThis was her legacy. Itโ€™s the perfect encapsulation of what weโ€™re doing in this studio.โ€

A portrait of Anne-Claire Cleaver's grandmother costumed for a Hello, Dolly! production. Photo by Matt Ramey.
A portrait of Anne-Claire Cleaver’s grandmother costumed for a Hello, Dolly! production. Photo by Matt Ramey.

From this homey space came the highly staged songs on Cleaverโ€™s second album, eight years after her first. The you in โ€œGood Troubleโ€ is civil rights hero John Lewis, with a country-kissed string arrangement by album coproducer Jeff Crawford. โ€œNight of the Hunter,โ€ with neoclassical noir orchestration by Chris Stamey, is about Robert Mitchum in the Southern Gothic film classic.

Instead of the personally revealing lyrical content we might have expected after her introspective debut, these vivid tableaux strike the listener with their newfound confidence. This growth was earned through eight years of personal challenges and starting a small businessโ€”eight years during which the arts of learning, teaching, and singing became inseparably entwined.

This is the story pulsing beneath the cinematic vignettes, the way the songs are about her.

Anne-Claire at the piano. Photo by Matt Ramey.
Anne-Claire at the piano. Photo by Matt Ramey.

But why shouldnโ€™t the mononymic Anne-Claire embrace the theatrical?

Drama was her first love, which she studied with a formative teacher named Sue Scarborough at Raleighโ€™s Enloe High School. But when she went to UNC-Greensboro, the cutthroat audition process soured her on acting.She wound up as a voice major instead.

Graduating in 2013, she moved to Thailand to teach English, where she felt very alone and started writing songs as a way of self-soothing. Coming home, she made GarageBand demos and worked on her piano playing. Friends from music school encouraged her to take the songs to the stage, eventually resulting in I Still Look For You, with experienced local musicians Alex Bingham and Jeff Crawford. It was a hard-won debut that she wasnโ€™t able to fully capitalize on.

โ€œI was going through a really difficult time,โ€ she said. โ€œMy grandmother had passed away very suddenly and was the inspiration for a lot of that record. I had been in eating disorder recovery since I came home from Thailand, and when she died, I had a huge relapse. I had to get real about some things. I was preoccupied with getting my health together when it came out.โ€

Cleaver got a job at Russell Lacey Music in Durham, where she taught kids for several years until the pandemic moved everything online. 

โ€œIn my mind, that was something you had to have a graduate degree to do,โ€ she said. โ€œYou had to be taught to teach. I learned this could be more than teaching someone how to sing. Youโ€™re here to connect with yourself, to self-regulate, to have confidence in a thing that you know you can do.โ€   

In 2021, she started Anne-Claire Voice, where she works with adults, mostly beginners, though more seasoned musicians come to her too. It has allowed her to become a full-time musician. 

โ€œWhen Iโ€™m working with the artist crowd, itโ€™s a different experience,โ€ she said. โ€œThere might be a vocal issue. But sometimes the problem is that they donโ€™t accept themselves and what their voice sounds like, or they feel lost and need an accountability person to bounce ideas off of.โ€

When Hope Thomson came to Cleaver for lessons three years ago, she certainly wasnโ€™t a beginner, but she didnโ€™t think of herself as an artist either. She had grown up singing but injured her voice in jazz combos at UNC. It had mostly recovered, but her confidence, her sense of direction, had not. What began as warm-up exercises evolved into a deeper, more holistic dynamic.

Singing is one of the most vulnerable things you can do in front of somebody, and it puts you in a position where if someone wants to hurt you, they can. I have people come in and cry through the whole first lesson.โ€

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โ€œI didnโ€™t expect what happened at all,โ€ Thomson said. โ€œWe hit it off because sheโ€™s a really wonderful person, approachable, easy to talk to and sing for. When she was like, โ€˜I think you should write original music,โ€™ that was not in my universe of possibility.โ€ Thomson didnโ€™t wind up writing one songโ€”she wrote an albumโ€™s worth. She recently recorded them at Nightsound Studios with Charles Cleaver, Anne-Claireโ€™s husband, and plans to release them as the album Reverie.

โ€œI had a lot of kinship with Hope right away,โ€ Anne-Claire said. โ€œWe had a similar training background. Singing is one of the most vulnerable things you can do in front of somebody, and it puts you in a position where if someone wants to hurt you, they can. I have people come in and cry through the whole first lesson.โ€ (This explains those tissues on the piano.)

Thomson thinks of Cleaver as her musical fairy godmother. Her process is โ€œvery different from good versus bad techniqueโ€”itโ€™s almost somatic,โ€ Thomson said. โ€œThinking about radical acceptance of my voice has been very healing. Whatโ€™s cool is that sheโ€™s been in her own recording and release process this year, so it makes me feel like sheโ€™s welcoming me in: โ€˜Iโ€™m doing this too, letโ€™s talk about how you want to do it.โ€™โ€

โ€œI was dreaming really big,โ€ Anne-Claire Cleaver said of her new album, Do You Dream of Me Too? โ€œI was not content with how Iโ€™d done it before. I wanted more grandeur.โ€ย Photo by Matt Ramey.
โ€œI was dreaming really big,โ€ Anne-Claire Cleaver said of her new album, Do You Dream of Me Too? โ€œI was not content with how Iโ€™d done it before. I wanted more grandeur.โ€ Photo by Matt Ramey.

Teaching doesnโ€™t just support Cleaverโ€™s music, it infuses it. Do You Dream of Me Too? wouldnโ€™t be what it is without Craig Carothers, the coach who gave her promptsโ€”say, โ€œa song about boatsโ€โ€”that spurred the songs. Nor without Jess Baldwin, who guided her through creative blocks.

โ€œShe helped me remember that as artists, we have a cycle,โ€ Cleaver said. โ€œWe have clarity. We know where weโ€™re going. Weโ€™re following through. And then thereโ€™s usually a period of, like, โ€˜What the fuck?โ€™ Weโ€™re in the fog. And then we emerge again.โ€

With a decade of teaching behind her, sheโ€™s had to learn her own lessons too. โ€œSaying this five times a day five days a week has to have rubbed off on me,โ€ she said. Itโ€™s rubbed off on Do You Dream of Me Too?, which features piano by Charles Cleaver, guitar and pedal steel by Nathan Golub, bass by Casey Toll, and drums by TJ Maiani.

โ€œI was dreaming really big,โ€ Cleaver said. โ€œI was not content with how Iโ€™d done it before. I wanted more grandeur.โ€ 

She divided up the songs among arrangers, hired a string section, and booked time in Manifold Recording, the fancy Frank Lloyd Wright-inspired studio in Pittsboro. Sinclair Palmer provided a lush, languorous arrangement for โ€œThree Things,โ€ the EPโ€™s touching centerpiece. โ€œRiverโ€ has a video by Florida photographer Shoog McDaniel where Cleaver swims in a sunny river while wearing a clown suitโ€”persona in motion.

  • Photo by Matt Ramey
  • Photo by Matt Ramey

In his arrangements, Crawford found inspiration in old records by Roy Orbison and Frank Sinatra, where someone would โ€œsit in the big studio, Capitol Records, with the orchestra and sing,โ€ Crawford said. โ€œI was looking for this classic, beautiful support of a vocal thatโ€™s going to take center stage. Her voice is truly an instrument; the amount of colorsโ€”sometimes it feels like a theremin, sometimes itโ€™s really powerful, operatic, very vulnerable, alternating within one song.โ€

As a veteran of the first albumโ€”and a close friend who informally officiated the Cleaversโ€™ weddingโ€”Crawford saw the marked change on the second.

โ€œSheโ€™s very active in the production, very confident,โ€ he said. โ€œI feel like the project is generated from her wanting to do this instead of just feeling like itโ€™s the right next step.โ€

โ€œI trust myself so much more than I did on my first record,โ€ Cleaver said, starting to tidy up for her next client. โ€œI even listen back to this new record and hear some things Iโ€™d want to change. But I always have to return to what I told Hope, which is that a record is a snapshot of a moment in time, and youโ€™re not there to be anyone other than who you are right now.โ€

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