Do You Dream of Me Too?, the new album by Anne-Claire Cleaver, isnโt about her. Itโs not about you either, even when it uses the second person.
โI think not being confessional is refreshing,โ the Durham musician said recently. โMy first record was kind of confessional, but now I want something bigger, grander, where maybe Iโm just a persona. So much of songwriting can be visual.โ
In the home studio where she gives singing lessons, she ran her hand over the piano keyboard, where her vocal range spans six Eโs. Atop the upright piano sat a votive candle, a box of tissues, two songwriting books, a Pride flag in a mug of pens, and a little bust of Beethoven.
Presiding over all is a mall portrait of her grandmother, costumed for a Hello, Dolly! production in eastern North Carolina.
โShe participated in the local theater her entire life,โ Cleaver said. โThis was her legacy. Itโs the perfect encapsulation of what weโre doing in this studio.โ

From this homey space came the highly staged songs on Cleaverโs second album, eight years after her first. The you in โGood Troubleโ is civil rights hero John Lewis, with a country-kissed string arrangement by album coproducer Jeff Crawford. โNight of the Hunter,โ with neoclassical noir orchestration by Chris Stamey, is about Robert Mitchum in the Southern Gothic film classic.
Instead of the personally revealing lyrical content we might have expected after her introspective debut, these vivid tableaux strike the listener with their newfound confidence. This growth was earned through eight years of personal challenges and starting a small businessโeight years during which the arts of learning, teaching, and singing became inseparably entwined.
This is the story pulsing beneath the cinematic vignettes, the way the songs are about her.

But why shouldnโt the mononymic Anne-Claire embrace the theatrical?
Drama was her first love, which she studied with a formative teacher named Sue Scarborough at Raleighโs Enloe High School. But when she went to UNC-Greensboro, the cutthroat audition process soured her on acting.She wound up as a voice major instead.
Graduating in 2013, she moved to Thailand to teach English, where she felt very alone and started writing songs as a way of self-soothing. Coming home, she made GarageBand demos and worked on her piano playing. Friends from music school encouraged her to take the songs to the stage, eventually resulting in I Still Look For You, with experienced local musicians Alex Bingham and Jeff Crawford. It was a hard-won debut that she wasnโt able to fully capitalize on.
โI was going through a really difficult time,โ she said. โMy grandmother had passed away very suddenly and was the inspiration for a lot of that record. I had been in eating disorder recovery since I came home from Thailand, and when she died, I had a huge relapse. I had to get real about some things. I was preoccupied with getting my health together when it came out.โ
Cleaver got a job at Russell Lacey Music in Durham, where she taught kids for several years until the pandemic moved everything online.
โIn my mind, that was something you had to have a graduate degree to do,โ she said. โYou had to be taught to teach. I learned this could be more than teaching someone how to sing. Youโre here to connect with yourself, to self-regulate, to have confidence in a thing that you know you can do.โ
In 2021, she started Anne-Claire Voice, where she works with adults, mostly beginners, though more seasoned musicians come to her too. It has allowed her to become a full-time musician.
โWhen Iโm working with the artist crowd, itโs a different experience,โ she said. โThere might be a vocal issue. But sometimes the problem is that they donโt accept themselves and what their voice sounds like, or they feel lost and need an accountability person to bounce ideas off of.โ
When Hope Thomson came to Cleaver for lessons three years ago, she certainly wasnโt a beginner, but she didnโt think of herself as an artist either. She had grown up singing but injured her voice in jazz combos at UNC. It had mostly recovered, but her confidence, her sense of direction, had not. What began as warm-up exercises evolved into a deeper, more holistic dynamic.
Singing is one of the most vulnerable things you can do in front of somebody, and it puts you in a position where if someone wants to hurt you, they can. I have people come in and cry through the whole first lesson.โ
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โI didnโt expect what happened at all,โ Thomson said. โWe hit it off because sheโs a really wonderful person, approachable, easy to talk to and sing for. When she was like, โI think you should write original music,โ that was not in my universe of possibility.โ Thomson didnโt wind up writing one songโshe wrote an albumโs worth. She recently recorded them at Nightsound Studios with Charles Cleaver, Anne-Claireโs husband, and plans to release them as the album Reverie.
โI had a lot of kinship with Hope right away,โ Anne-Claire said. โWe had a similar training background. Singing is one of the most vulnerable things you can do in front of somebody, and it puts you in a position where if someone wants to hurt you, they can. I have people come in and cry through the whole first lesson.โ (This explains those tissues on the piano.)
Thomson thinks of Cleaver as her musical fairy godmother. Her process is โvery different from good versus bad techniqueโitโs almost somatic,โ Thomson said. โThinking about radical acceptance of my voice has been very healing. Whatโs cool is that sheโs been in her own recording and release process this year, so it makes me feel like sheโs welcoming me in: โIโm doing this too, letโs talk about how you want to do it.โโ

Teaching doesnโt just support Cleaverโs music, it infuses it. Do You Dream of Me Too? wouldnโt be what it is without Craig Carothers, the coach who gave her promptsโsay, โa song about boatsโโthat spurred the songs. Nor without Jess Baldwin, who guided her through creative blocks.
โShe helped me remember that as artists, we have a cycle,โ Cleaver said. โWe have clarity. We know where weโre going. Weโre following through. And then thereโs usually a period of, like, โWhat the fuck?โ Weโre in the fog. And then we emerge again.โ
With a decade of teaching behind her, sheโs had to learn her own lessons too. โSaying this five times a day five days a week has to have rubbed off on me,โ she said. Itโs rubbed off on Do You Dream of Me Too?, which features piano by Charles Cleaver, guitar and pedal steel by Nathan Golub, bass by Casey Toll, and drums by TJ Maiani.
โI was dreaming really big,โ Cleaver said. โI was not content with how Iโd done it before. I wanted more grandeur.โ
She divided up the songs among arrangers, hired a string section, and booked time in Manifold Recording, the fancy Frank Lloyd Wright-inspired studio in Pittsboro. Sinclair Palmer provided a lush, languorous arrangement for โThree Things,โ the EPโs touching centerpiece. โRiverโ has a video by Florida photographer Shoog McDaniel where Cleaver swims in a sunny river while wearing a clown suitโpersona in motion.
In his arrangements, Crawford found inspiration in old records by Roy Orbison and Frank Sinatra, where someone would โsit in the big studio, Capitol Records, with the orchestra and sing,โ Crawford said. โI was looking for this classic, beautiful support of a vocal thatโs going to take center stage. Her voice is truly an instrument; the amount of colorsโsometimes it feels like a theremin, sometimes itโs really powerful, operatic, very vulnerable, alternating within one song.โ
As a veteran of the first albumโand a close friend who informally officiated the Cleaversโ weddingโCrawford saw the marked change on the second.
โSheโs very active in the production, very confident,โ he said. โI feel like the project is generated from her wanting to do this instead of just feeling like itโs the right next step.โ
โI trust myself so much more than I did on my first record,โ Cleaver said, starting to tidy up for her next client. โI even listen back to this new record and hear some things Iโd want to change. But I always have to return to what I told Hope, which is that a record is a snapshot of a moment in time, and youโre not there to be anyone other than who you are right now.โ
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